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Generator in mode WAV

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1Generator in mode WAV Empty Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:58 am

Alex68

Alex68

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Say the generator is running in this mode.
 Or is it not finalized yet?

There are test files for checking ULF.
I put them in. The generator does not issue tests.

i will paste these test files via yand-disk

later.

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/mFlu7dwCvXnXGQGenerator in mode WAV 2022-238

2Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:38 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

Alex68 wrote: Or is it not finalized yet?
This is a new feature, still very basic implementation.
For some context have a look to this post:
https://simulide.forumotion.com/t814-r1254win10-wave-import-not-working

I see that there is a problem with the property window:
Wave type and file name is not shown correctly after opening the circuit.

But "Wav mode" for Wave Generator is working for me (Linux and Windows).

To see what is happening have a look at the bottom panel.
If the file is loaded correctly you will see something like this:

Generator in mode WAV Wav10

If there is an error you will see something like this (with the type of error):

Generator in mode WAV Wav210


3Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:32 pm

Alex68

Alex68

Thank you. But I would like to see a real waveform on an oscilloscope. As for example in the program Multisim or Proteus. For example, when connecting an amplifying stage, see all its distortions.
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Simple test files lasting 15 seconds are not in the ring.
But I don't see them.

4Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:52 pm

Defran

Defran

Proteus apart, it doesn´t work for me either, only big noises are heard. I attach my test files and the printscreen with the results in the botton black screen and oscilloscope. W11.

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5Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:12 pm

Alex68

Alex68

When I have a rectangular pulse of 1000 Hz, I hear the sound of the pulse well. So jerky. The sine signal is also clicks. Apparently the sound in the dynamic head is processed by peak amplitude values.
But I can't even see the signal on my oscilloscope. Installed various files. There is no sense.

6Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:07 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

Defran wrote:I attach my test files
Seems that attachment didn't work, I can't see any files in your post.

Defran wrote:it doesn´t work for me either, only big noises are heard
What you hear in the speakers of your computer depends on the speed of the simulation.
If you add capacitors, the simulation will not run at 100%, and you will not hear the same as in a "music player".
In any case, simulation speed can have variations depending on several factors.

It seems that it is working for you but you don't hear what you expect.
And this is normal, the purpose of this component is not listening to wav files, for that there are other programs.

This feature is working for me in Linux and Windows.
It is not very easy to use by now, but I don't see any error:


7Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:12 pm

Defran

Defran

Sorry, I forgot to add the files, now they are there.

8Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:35 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

Seems that the problem is with capacitor...

9Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:53 pm

Alex68

Alex68

In general, the dynamic head model should reproduce normal sound through the computer's sound card. Depends on the sound card of the computer. Everyone has different cards .. Capacitor models have nothing to do with it. They work well. If the signal from the generator works in positive polarity, then decoupling is not needed. This is displayed in the editor.
The model of the generator itself needs more work.
This is the same problem so far as with the Zener model.
His model still does not work. Try to create a simple parametric stabilizer model. With preset stabilization parameters. It won't work out. But on a bipolar transistor, the included zener diode is possible.
It stabilizes the voltage well in a wide range of supply voltage. Tomorrow I will show you with the file.

10Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:05 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

At the end the problem reported by Defran (distortion) was in Audio Out component (introduced in recent changes).
It was only evident when used with a capacitor.
Solved at Rev 1282.

The problem reported by Alex68 (no output) remains undefined due to lack of information.

11Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:47 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

Alex68 wrote:In general, the dynamic head model should reproduce normal sound through the computer's sound card. Depends on the sound card of the computer. Everyone has different cards .. Capacitor models have nothing to do with it.
In general everything in the simulation has something to do, including capacitor, Audio Out, Wave generator, simulation speed, simulation step length...

If the capacitor is not working properly it can cause errors (obviously).
In this case using a capacitor "activated" the problem In Audio Out component.
The problem was not in the capacitor itself, but it could be.

Alex68 wrote:If the signal from the generator works in positive polarity, then decoupling is not needed.
Audio Out "resting point" is 0 Volts, range = -2.5 Volts to 2.5 Volts.
So if the generator works in positive polarity it needs decoupling to work properly.

Alex68 wrote:This is the same problem so far as with the Zener model.
His model still does not work. Try to create a simple parametric stabilizer model. With preset stabilization parameters. It won't work out. But on a bipolar transistor, the included zener diode is possible.
It stabilizes the voltage well in a wide range of supply voltage. Tomorrow I will show you with the file.
?????
This problem has absolutely nothing to do with zener diode.

It would be great if we focus in the problem defined in this post.

And it would be magnificent if we focus in solving problems (one by one) instead of wasting time in useless complaints.



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12Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:37 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

Problem with WaveGen properties solved and "Load File" dialog added at Rev 1284.

13Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:54 am

TimFisch

TimFisch

Not sure, whether the following is already solved: when loading a WAV in R1279 the frequency still stands at 1000 Hz not on the frequency of the WAV.

https://wiki.mexle.hs-heilbronn.de/

14Generator in mode WAV Empty Re: Generator in mode WAV Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:55 am

arcachofo

arcachofo

TimFisch wrote:Not sure, whether the following is already solved: when loading a WAV in R1279 the frequency still stands at 1000 Hz not on the frequency of the WAV.
That  is a problem in the property dialog not updating correctly, internally the data is ok.
If you change tab and back to "Main" it updates.

It was solved at Rev 1284.



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