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FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation

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1FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:55 am

Defran

Defran

In the attached schematic the gauge circuit has a very small variation, can you tell me how works this device in simulide, or may be it is a error?

Thanks in advance.

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2FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty Re: FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:49 am

Alex68

Alex68

3FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty Re: FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:57 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

In the attached schematic the gauge circuit has a very small variation, can you tell me how works this device in simulide, or may be it is a error?
Yes, it has a small variation, that's how it works.

I don't know much about the subject, but there are different ways to use it.
For example using Op. Amps. as Alex shows.
Or for example this:
FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Wheatstone-bridge-diagram-01

4FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty Re: FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:22 pm

Defran

Defran

My quaestion was in order tu know about the dynamic range of this kind of sensors. have bought one and I have seen that in reality the range is also very narrow, around 60mv, so this is the one to work. Thanks.



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5FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty Re: FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:38 pm

arcachofo

arcachofo

I can't give you much information because I didn't create this component.
Probably some parameter could be editable to match specific devices in the market, but I have little idea.
For example parameters about physical dimensions and maybe some other.

To get an idea of how it works here is the code that performs the calculation, from force in Newtons to resistance:

Code:

// Parameters:
double m_r0 = 120.0;
double m_coef_poisson = 0.3;     // 0.27 - 0.34 Steel - Alu
double m_cste_bridgman = 1.3;    // around 1, 1.3 to get Constantan or Karma K=2.1
double m_k_long;                 // gauge factor : perfect longitunal)
double m_k;                      // gauge factor (include transverse decrease)
double m_coef_transverse = 0.01; // to take into account non effectuve transverse wires
double m_ref_temp = 20.0;        // ambient reference for thermal drift
double m_temp = 20.0;            // operating temperature (here no thermal drift)
double m_young_modulus = 69e9;   // Aluminum test body
double m_h_body = 0.1e-3;        // rectangular section of test body , height=0.1 mm
double m_w_body = 5e-3;          // width=5mm
double m_section_body;
double m_delta_r;                // resistance variation due to strain
double m_alpha_r  = 2e-5;        // per °C for Constantan
double m_lambda_j = 1.7e-5;      // per °C for Constantan
double m_lambda_s = 2.5e-5;      // per °C for Aluminum body
double m_delta_r_t;              // resisrance viariation due to thermal drift

// Calculations:
double Strain::sensorFunction( double forceN )
{
  double resisteance;
  m_k_long = 1+2.0*m_coef_poisson+m_cste_bridgman*(1-2*m_coef_poisson);
  m_k = m_k_long * (1 - m_coef_transverse);
  m_section_body = m_h_body * m_w_body;
  m_delta_r = m_r0*m_k*forceN/(m_young_modulus*m_section_body);
  m_delta_r_t = (m_alpha_r+m_k*(m_lambda_s - m_lambda_j)) * (m_temp - m_ref_temp) * m_r0;
  resisteance = m_r0 + m_delta_r + m_delta_r_t;
  return resisteance;
}

6FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Empty Re: FORCE_STRAIN_GAUGE small variation Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:22 pm

Defran

Defran

Thanks, Arcacachofo. It is clear for mi now and also solved for the project in development.

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